Verve91Featured By OwnerOct 4, 2014Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would say mostly for us, because if they were doing it for themselves it probably would be more suited to their own tastes and would be less likely to appeal to the masses, and therefore ever be published.
CerealChaserFeatured By OwnerSep 13, 2014Hobbyist Digital Artist
Depends on the publisher really. Some businesses will use the whole "demographic" thing while others will use ideas that are completely their own and are personal to them
I think they use a combination of both because it is their business and is also their passion. It wasn't successful if we (fans or public or people or readers or watchers) don't like it.
I think just like anything, when it comes to a dream job, at first its really fun and you do it for yourself and others as well. But A lot of comic artists (old school) seem to just keep doing it for the money after a while it just becomes a job to them. That's the scene I get.
Dark-PhobosFeatured By OwnerJul 23, 2014Hobbyist General Artist
Comic Artists are like Writers, for that they love to enjoy themselves and they want to audience to enjoy the designs, plot(s), characters, climax, scenery, and much more. I'm not really good Comic Artist, but I LOVE WRITING! Writing is pretty much fun, and I enjoy it for myself, as well I wish to see if the audience around me could enjoy it. However, the thing is for Publishing Companies being chosen by the authors/comic artists, it seems like it's a large gamble in a way, hoping to succeed for a lot of money. I'm not to sure if they ever pay attention to the details, plots, characters, and much more other stuff... It's something that should be asked in the polls.... o_O Aye, must be darn interesting then!
Both, definitely! The artist enjoys making, drawing and writing the characters and plot lines and stories! But at the same time, the reader is enjoying every bit of what this artist has done, simply by reading their work!
If I would publish a comic, I'd do it for myself. So... But in the x+1. part of a comic there can be felt tha thread of the readers... Usually here the story dies.
Making comics can be both fun and a way to relieve stress, even if it's tough. Though to keep their money goin, they have to produce more comics for readers to enjoy. However, I believe comic creators simply enjoy the fun of producing a new comic and the joy it brings to their readers.
This isnt fake. apparently , if u copy and paste this to ten quizzes or polls in the next ten minutes u will have the best day of ur life tomorrow. u will either get kissed or asked out, if u break this chain u will see a little dead girl in your room tonight. in 53 mins someone will say i love you or im sorry or i wanna go out with you
at this point its about 33% themselves 33% us 33% money 1% aliens
either that or all of that condensed into 20% the remaining 80% being they ran out of fucking ideas...everything in comics is so recycled these days in this humble 15+ year fans opinion
Argento-DtwFeatured By OwnerDec 1, 2013Hobbyist General Artist
True art should be performed just for the artist's sake. I'm a profane in all that regards comics; still, my impression is they are audience-driven. They tell what the readers want to be told. I sincerely wish those kind of artists to be able to do at least ONE "work of their life", by which I mean one sincere piece of art that is beyond money and beyond any boundary.
I think that they're mainly doing it for whoever wants to use it- as in, if you don't like it, don't buy it or whatever. If you like it, then get it!!!!! Why do you think people would go into that line of work if they didn't enjoy comics themselves? I mean, really... it wouldn't be hard to get a job in other places with a bit better 'joy' rate than the comic book industry, now would it? And yet they go there. How else can you explain that???? Hm? If you like it, you like it, if you don't, you don't, they do it for those who do. But bringing others in is ALWAYS a bonus! ^^
As a comic author myself, I feel that comics, like any piece of literature, are used to convey a message from the writer to the reader. My comic deals with duality and the balancing of good and evil.
I feel that most of them at first will do it for themselves, but soon come to realize that doing it for the readers is much better. Or, after they do it for themselves just so they can have enough power to learn how to create good comics that readers will like. (complicated process).
A lot of time comic book writers write what they want, what they believe in- the way they want the characters to be. A lot of times the fandom gropes and gripes about how "it wouldn't be this way if so and so were writing this" and the writer gets discouraged. They begin writing it the way the fandom wants it written, exactly how it had been before. The characters lose any potential of development and are stuck in a vicious cycle of monotony.
I think both, they draw their ideas and what they believe and how they feel into a comic, but at the other hand need to present it for the reader. They understand how to reach the people out there and translate their message properly.
Here's how I see it since I myself am a writer, I make pilots to see if a series works. Depending on the feedback its up to the reader or if I have high hopes for the series then I will continue it. Writers want to see if a series works and if it does they do it for the reader or they do it for themselves. If not, they just leave it.
If I ever get to publish my own comic "Crosswinds", I would be silly not to admit how proud I would feel, but....
The thing that would really make it worth it is that one special stranger who picks up that book, and feels like this story is a treasure worth keeping in their home. To me, knowing they are out there waiting would be worth any number of years in production.
I believe they do it for the fans, and in the most negative way. They are just trying to please the fans and won't do stuff they don't believe will please the fans. They're not interested in challenging the fans or in telling their own stories. In fact, I'd probably enjoy comics more if they just tried telling their own stories how they felt like telling them. More indie comics do this, and I believe most of the time they produce superior stories.
I fear they make them mostly for a strange Marketing created group of nonexistent virtual people, that have properties of many different readers... but do not really serve any one reader.
They may be doing it for their own enjoyment, and they may be doing it for the reader's enjoyment. At the end of the day, though, they're doing it to make money; they would not be doing it if it wasn't turning a profit. In that sense, they are doing it both for themselves (to make money) and for the reader (the reader won't buy the comic if they don't enjoy the series).
At the end of the day, there are two things that make the world go 'round: money, and hard work.
I just started reading comics again & I noticed 2 things right away. 1. The art is absolutely amazing! With tons of it! I see they are still doing multiple variant covers. 2 The stories are awful. Seems like to me that alot of it is now about the art. I just got the comixology app on my iphone and it's awesome. I got some free digital comics, paid $1 for some classic old weird horror comics from the 50s and before, as well as some new comics. The old comics like Weird Horror stories or Buck Rogers, have good stories. They also have a lot more writing. The new stuff like Wonderland (Alce is hot but rambling crazy thoughts), Grimm Tales presents stuff, is awful. Even the newer Evil Dead VS Hack comic, has great art, great street dialog, but bad story. I used to write a lot & have some good stories but I lack ambition. I haven't even put art on here because I don't finish my pieces. :/
But in the end, what artist does art for others and not themselves first? It's a lot of work to become skilled. They make art because they have to, like a musician makes music. Course they like the fans & the work as well. I put down both.
Publishers are supposed to make it for us, but they tend to miss the mark so terribly much that we might as well say they make them for themselves.
The saddest part is, it's really hard to make something for the fans when there's so many fans and so many contradictory opinions of what we want... but when publishers do try to address what we want, it seems to often (I want to say always but I'm trying to stay positive lol) backfire and they instead end up angering several groups in a failed attempt to please one groups or a few groups.
I'm just so often disappointed with the comic industry. They're not always good at listening, and when they do listen they panic with all the different opinions and can't prioritize what might make most fans happy or not. (Communication could be better.)
Also, I see so many comments in this post that answered as if the question was about fanarts and about how artists should do it for their own enjoyment etc... O_o It's good to enjoy your work if you do it for a living but the question was about publishers, not the artists themselves, and especially not fanartists. A publishing company must focus on communicating with its customer base and with its artists in order to have a harmonious idea of what one might want to read and what the other can do/wants to do, and then combine all of that to put out a quality product. The focus of a publishing company is to thrive while satisfying its customer base. It's not to have fun or enjoyment, though one hopes that will also be a part of it, as a by-product. No company that says its primary purpose is to have fun, is saying the truth. lol
The publishers do it for the money, the writers and artists do it for the art (hopefully), if there is an overlap (writer/publisher, artist/ publisher, all in one) then there may be other motives, but a lone publisher with no artistic stake in it is financially motivated. My opinion, feel free to disagree.
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Whatever they're doing... it's not getting me interested in buying them again. :/
But in the x+1. part of a comic there can be felt tha thread of the readers... Usually here the story dies.
HOWEVER. art and business can intersect. thats whats amazing about it and thats what you want
The publishers aren't doing it for enjoyment, or for the art. They'll ruin both enjoyability AND art for THEIR goal: money.
Jerks.
To me, knowing they are out there waiting would be worth any number of years in production.
They are just trying to please the fans and won't do stuff they don't believe will please the fans. They're not interested in challenging the fans or in telling their own stories. In fact, I'd probably enjoy comics more if they just tried telling their own stories how they felt like telling them. More indie comics do this, and I believe most of the time they produce superior stories.
But in the end, what artist does art for others and not themselves first? It's a lot of work to become skilled. They make art because they have to, like a musician makes music. Course they like the fans & the work as well. I put down both.
The saddest part is, it's really hard to make something for the fans when there's so many fans and so many contradictory opinions of what we want... but when publishers do try to address what we want, it seems to often (I want to say always but I'm trying to stay positive lol) backfire and they instead end up angering several groups in a failed attempt to please one groups or a few groups.
I'm just so often disappointed with the comic industry. They're not always good at listening, and when they do listen they panic with all the different opinions and can't prioritize what might make most fans happy or not. (Communication could be better.)
Also, I see so many comments in this post that answered as if the question was about fanarts and about how artists should do it for their own enjoyment etc... O_o It's good to enjoy your work if you do it for a living but the question was about publishers, not the artists themselves, and especially not fanartists.
A publishing company must focus on communicating with its customer base and with its artists in order to have a harmonious idea of what one might want to read and what the other can do/wants to do, and then combine all of that to put out a quality product. The focus of a publishing company is to thrive while satisfying its customer base. It's not to have fun or enjoyment, though one hopes that will also be a part of it, as a by-product. No company that says its primary purpose is to have fun, is saying the truth. lol
My opinion, feel free to disagree.