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If you've taken advantage of online arts education services, would you recommend the same for other artists? fav.me/d6tw97r

16%
12,457 deviants said Yes
4%
3,042 deviants said No
81%
64,770 deviants said I have not participated in online arts education services


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TinaMarySpiritCashew Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, I really don't know if it is one... It's called Manga University, but I only view the free tutorials. Please don't eat me! :(
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OfficialProJustice Featured By Owner May 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
i havent had online art education like college etc. but i watch tutorials from comon artists and such so id count it as art education. hence, why i voted YES
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TinaMarySpiritCashew Featured By Owner Edited Aug 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Me too:D Is it considered one though?
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OfficialProJustice Featured By Owner Sep 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It is :) 
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TinaMarySpiritCashew Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
'Kay, is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Sorry, I really am clueless x_x :P
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OfficialProJustice Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
its a good thing haha^^ 
If your educating yourself thats one step further into becoming a professinal artist! 
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mideila Featured By Owner May 19, 2014  Student Artist
It's all nonsense.
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SabotenAdopts Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
This isnt fake. apparently , if u copy and paste this to ten quizzes or polls in the next ten minutes u will have the best day of ur life tomorrow. u will either get kissed or asked out, if u break this chain u will see a little dead girl in your room tonight. in 53 mins someone will say i love you or im sorry or i wanna go out with you
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Alessio-Saturno Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014   Digital Artist
Online schools are an excuse to take away money from people. The fact that you have to sit in front of your PC and use a webcam to go to school is nasty: one should stay in the place of training and these school are mainly for people who have money to waste. It's all virtual and you need human contact for a proper training.
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Soriyns-Knight Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014  Student General Artist
Nothing beats actually being in a class room and interacting with people. I'm taking an online art class at the moment for the Academy of Art University, and I'm sure its great for some people, but for me it just feels like I'm logging on to watch Youtube videos. There's very little interaction with the other students or instructor. There's just too much distance. 

If you're going to take a class, then take a class.
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TMihiT Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2014  Student Digital Artist
i cant find good physical class or if i find someone i dont believe them. that teachers is like joking around me!!! wow... i just get surprise after see real result !!! O_O but anyway. i keep my way, i hope i will be an good artist as like as professional artist in here ! 
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Cestarian Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow really? so few voters have actually tried educating themselves online? You people are missing out; I've got a (still WIP) playlist that currently has a fairly complete fundamentals/basics + figure drawing course in it (next in line is coloring & shading and then landscapes & backgrounds)
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Deorse Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have never taken any professional art classes online or offline and I would not advise that anyone else waste their money on an art class either.
I don't mean to sound one-sided, but from my experience and where I currently live, I would not advise taking any "professional" art classes, online or offline and here's why, for the most part art will only amount to a minimum wage job at best. Originally I actually wanted to get a degree in graphic arts (which is a professional field based on art), but I found out the harsh reality about what actually happens to anyone who gets a professional degree in art over where I live, they usually end up with $80,000 to $100,000 in school debt and in my local area graphic arts is not a high demand job, so you'll usually end up still being unemployed with a huge school loan hanging over your head.

Have you ever heard the term "starving artist"? Well that is no joke, for the most part you will be a starving artist, an artist that can barely pay their expenses and barely be able to afford to feed themselves solely through their art profession alone. You might even have to take on a second job just to keep up with your expenses. Sure you can go out and run you own art studio and sure you could charge $2000 to $3000 or more for one on of your fancy oil paintings or unique sculptures, but in this day and age and in this economy not many people have that kind of money piss away on any art of any quality, that's where the second job usually ends up coming in, because you can't hardly make any of your expenses because your art is just not selling.

Let's just face it unless you get lucky and you are able to get your foot through the door and you are able to work graphic arts for major TV media, get into a field of either movie/storyboard animation, or into a field based on video game development/animation, you WILL NOT be making any money. Don't let anyone tell you different either.

The most money anyone could ever make from professional art in a year is roughly between $19,000 and $40,000 (if they're lucky) and that's after you've paid off that $80,000 to $100,000 of school debt. Usually you end making the lower end of that pay spectrum where as say someone who got a degree in a real profession such as welding or metal works will only spend about $25,000 or less for a 2 years associates degree, and they usually make about $40,000 to $50,000 within their first year.

Just a little something to keep in mind  for all of you.

To be honest art wise, I felt that I learned more on my own without taking any art classes then I ever did in my 2 years of art class back in high school. The subjects and medias are much more broad and more open for your creativity then they ever would be in a professional art class room. When I was in college I never took any art classes either. Now would my art look any better or be that of a higher quality if I took an art class or got my degree in professional art while I was in college? Well it is quite possible that it could have been, very possible, but then again there is never any guarantees that it would have improved my art. Not to boast, but I feel that my art is some of the highest of qualities that it has ever been. By no means am I the best artist on this site or in my state for that matter, but then again with art having multiple subjects and wide ranges of media, art is truly "in the eye of the beholder."

I personally think art is something that is best self-taught, you can learn a lot through classes, you can learn even more on your own from free online tutorials and even other artists with a few tips, however I feel that a true artist learns from their experiences and their mistakes and that is one lesson that no one will ever be able to teach you in a class room.

In the future after I have made a career in the military and I have money to waste on something as useless as taking an art class, I might see if I can take a couple of professional part-time art classes as a side hobby just to see if I can even improve my art in anyway shape or form, but likely I won't be taught anything new or anything that I haven't already learned on my own. Even then I will NOT try to use my art in professional manner, rather I'll just use it as a hobby as I've always done.

If you have plans on making art as your true profession and you're able to make a living from it, well good more power to ya; if art is not your forte or you just can't seem to scrape a living off from it, I'd suggest going out and getting a real career then and just leave art as a hobby.

Does this mean that you can't go back and try to make a living off of art? Not necessarily. You have the potential to do just about anything (within reason), with time and dedication you very well could make a living off of art, but chances of that are pretty slim at best in this day and age. That's why it's always good to be realistic and to have realistic goals and expectations when attempting anything. I'd rather be surprised about how well that something worked out better than I expected than to be disappointed, because I got high hopes on something that didn't preform well (never would preform well) or meet or exceed my expectations. It's called being realistic, something that everyone should try every once and a while.
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hope4unicorns Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You and I think very much alike!
I think online art classes give you pre-made creativity. You have to listen to the instructor person and whatever, and they help you, but you don't get to come up with your own ORIGINAL ideas. Sure, they will help you draw better, but it's just not the same as learning on your own. I learned how to draw horses because I looked at many when I was a child. Sometimes I would sit out on a bucket and draw my horses, or look at a picture off the internet! As for the My Little Ponies, I also looked up pictures off the internet and came up with an idea!
(The pictures off the internet are not tutorials, just pictures of the horse breed or MLP character.)
Tutorials are OK, but still is the same concept. They just help you COPY another's work. As Deorse said, a true artist learns from their experiences and their mistakes and that is one lesson that no one will ever be able to teach you in a class room.
So, don't waste your money (or time) on an online class. Learn from your mistakes, and use YOUR creativity, and maybe you will make something great!
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ambient-avalancher Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2014
For all you 3D artists, I would recommend Dreamlight's training series like Light Master and Fantasy Lighting Photoshop Tutorial
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NerezaFire Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Student General Artist
I have recommended classes like FZD and Stan Winston school of character arts and other programs both free and payed for that have helped me in improving my skills and knowledge.  
Sharing knowledge is not a bad thing. I don't believe using resources to help educate means I'm taking advantage of anyone. The way you have worded the question makes it sound like a negative thing.  Continuing to learn though out life no matter what you are learning or who you are learning it from is usually positive , regardless of the resources you use, you can learn from anything whether its in a formal school setting, online, or just learning from being with different people. education is  almost always a good thing.
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Rollinlol95 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I entered highschool and started studying the arts there. It actually didn't help much, though. You could actually say that DA and Youtube thought me more than school did (about the human body, anatomy and such).
Not to forget the books i received for my Birthdays, those helped a lot too.
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j2Artist Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2013  Professional Artist
I recommend going to your local public college and taking some courses. Interacting with other artist will really help you out in the long run. 
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I highly recommend Skillshare. I've taken a few courses for a very reasonable price and got some quality education in return as well as a few new pieces for my portfolio. I suggest checking it out. New students get 10$ off of their first class, too! I'm satisfied with my overall experience with online learning though I was skeptical at first.
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AbbeyMarie Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I would recommend buying  training courses/books/tutorials from various artist who you already admire, and know that they have a passion for what they are doing and carry that passion over into the course they have created, before ever recommending enrolling in online schooling. 
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LunarCollar Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Where are more polls? XP
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SuicidalArtist000 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013   General Artist
Obviously many people here are Slamming down on "Online art education services", yet what these people don't realize is that most likely a significant number of the people who use them or consider using them know they cannot possibly ever make good drawings/paintings/art on their own, they know that no matter how desperately they try they could not ever achieve the beauty/or skill of many of the unbelievable works here on Deviantart and elsewhere, at a point they get sick/fed up with the struggle and humiliating failure and often paying impossibly innapropriate amounts of money for Online classes is basically their only option or to abandon all hope entirely.
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NightsongWS Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013   Digital Artist
I received my degree from an online arts college and would encourage others to seek the same education only with extreme caution.  There is a wealth of information on the internet -and- online learning is only really useful to those with a certain turn of mind.  In addition, school policies may make learning more difficult than it has to be -- a lesson learned with painful experience. 

I would read reviews of schools and look for local, focused ones rather than simply enrolling in school to be taught.  You'll only ever get as much out of your education as you put into it, and sometimes that means teaching yourself is the better route.
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caradecunha2 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"online learning is only really useful to those with a certain turn of mind." - What you mean by that? OR which "turn of mind" is it specifically?
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NightsongWS Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013   Digital Artist
People who learn best by doing things in a classroom, by actually being in the presence of a physical teacher who can guide them as they work, might not do very well in an online classroom.  Even with live chats and video conferencing, online learning is still essentially distance learning and requires a certain amount of self-direction and self-discipline on the part of the student.

It goes back to the old truism that some people learn by seeing, others by hearing, others by reading, and others by doing (as well as other methods!).  Online learning is just one method of learning and, while it can be great (especially with advances in technology and dedicated teachers), it just doesn't always work for everyone.  That's all.  I meant no offense toward any group and I wasn't trying to belittle anyone -- folks are just all wired differently is all.
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caradecunha2 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Uhum. Thanks! It's just I was wandering if there was something else besides that... Cause well. I live in Brazil and for me it's hard to get many classes down here, or to go up there. So I was just wondering if there would be something that wouldn't make it good for me. I haven't tried it out yet... so I might try and see if it Works. Thanks for the input! :) (I wasn't implying that you were implying that last thing you said, rsrs.).

Again: thanks for the advice!
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NightsongWS Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013   Digital Artist
Oh, good.  Sorry if I sounded a little defensive there -- I've had folks bite my head off for saying that online learning isn't for everyone.  :( 

I as in the -exact- same situation you are:  I couldn't find any of the art classes I wanted to take locally, so I had to take them online.  It was a real shame, too, because the local area is known for some of its amazing artists.  But there are no schools!!!!  It was so frustrating!  So, online to school I went!

My suggestion would be to look up what other people say about the schools that you want to attend, and see what they say about it.  Hearing from other students or former students from the school you are interested in is the BEST sort of advice!!!  They will be able to tell you what you need, and what to watch out for.  And good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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caradecunha2 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks! :)
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krouton3 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
this question isnt very specific does it mean online schools or like tutorials... if it means tutorials yes i prolly would if they were hell past couple days ive been learning blender basics and im already recomending the tuts ive found
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JovDaRipper Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2013  Student Interface Designer
I'm thinking online schools and courses, like schoolism and stuff.
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LadyDieheart Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Deviantart should have an app for iPhones and Androids.
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EvolveTransform Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's actually a thing?
I would love that.

But on a similar note: does anyone want to link me to any good online art "classes" or anything similar? :)
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rumikoholic Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
I found this site very useful: www.drawspace.com/lessons

and this is a great place to practice poses: www.posemaniacs.com/

All free.  Good luck!
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EvolveTransform Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, fantastic, thank you for the links! Thank you very much!
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rumikoholic Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
You're welcome!
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Verdaera Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
As far as a degree program, no. I think online classes are impersonal and prefer a classroom environment. I had to take a couple non-art classes online and they were horrible. I didn't have easy access to the teacher for advice. But outside of that, online tutorials and youtube videos are a wonderful resource to draw on and can be more informative than any book. I think if a school were to merge the two ideas it would be fantastic.
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Cabbion Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2013
Online classes?
Hmm I guess, but I prefer to be in physical class more. Again, that is just me.
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Manga-Phantom Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Art...IS AN EXPLOSION!!
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PirateHearts Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Student Filmographer
I think that Art isn't something that you can learn via online. 
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FroslassManiac Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to disagree with you there. I used the internet as my help for improving and changing my view on art. I've learned and improved a lot out there. I may not have used online art education, but most of my techniques come from tutorials by various artists online, as well as critics from people who looked at my drawings.
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olymbos01 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very surprised so many have not taken any online classes.  I spent all summer working though Cntl-Paint and now I am going though 18 months of Oatley Art Academy and I am learning more now from these two sights then I did at Art college!
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caradecunha2 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I guess it's because we don't feel we're really inside a "course". For instance I did watch many vídeos from Ctrl+Paint but not for myself to consider it a "service" since I only watched some of the free vídeos and so I marked as if never seen it/used it. It might be misunderstanding of what they meant for "educational services". :)
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rena-neji Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
mmm unless art appreciation online counts, I've never had art online. If you want to try art online that's always good, but practice will get you there so you don't always need an art teacher. Art appreciation online basically taught me how to analyze historical and modern art pieces. I guess I taught myself to draw since I do it all the time lol
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DarkForceLeader Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student Digital Artist
School sucks, even if it is about art.
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sayukaru Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
If art is something you truly love and truly want to do in life, then school will not be boring. I can see where you stand.
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DarkForceLeader Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013  Student Digital Artist

Yes, school can be useful for people who doesn't know where to start.


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Hagaluz Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2013
not a lot of people participated
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D-Rock92 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, looking at the results, we can assume a massive chunk of DA are self-taught.
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gravykins Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Student General Artist
I completely and wholeheartedly suggest taking them in person. I went to the ringling college over the summer and took their teen art classes, I got in for free because I applied for free classes (There's always cheap and free alternatives for people in need, my friends)

Not only is the one on one experience with professors fantastic, but you get to meet a ton of other people who are at your skill level and have the same interest. I would even find everyone collaborating with one another when we got stuck. It was a great experience AND confidence booster, you just can't get that through a digital lesson. 
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alphabetsoup314 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What, exactly, would you define as 'online art education'? Would step-by-step tutorials (whether in the form of a video or series of images or in the form of an article) count? Being mentored by other artists (anything from a fleeting basis like a constructive comment to more long-term like being partnered with a mentor)? Informally following a series of 'guide for beginners' articles hosted on a website? Or are you only interested in formal seminars/classes that are offered online (ie distance education)? 

I think the scope of this poll needs to be defined more clearly. That is why I voted 'I have not participated'. 
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